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PostSubject: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyFri Jul 27, 2012 10:43 am

The Brits don't seem to think too much of Romney's foreign policy. Pissing off the people by criticism of their Olympics, forgetting the name of the Labor leader, outting MI6. Israelis better tell him to keep his mouth shut about Mossad. Way to go Mitt, that's the way to win friends and influence people.
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyFri Jul 27, 2012 12:33 pm

Yes I don't think that was the smartest thing to say.

Kind of reminds of when
Barack Obama sends bust of Winston Churchill on its way back to Britain
Barack Obama has sent Sir Winston Churchill packing and pulse rates soaring among anxious British diplomats.

Mr Obama declined an offer to hang on onto the bust for a further four years

REUTERS

By Tim Shipman in Washington 5:20PM GMT 14 Feb 2009
A bust of the former prime minister once voted the greatest Briton in history, which was loaned to George W Bush from the Government's art collection after the September 11 attacks, has now been formally handed back.

The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush's tenure.

But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."

Or when….

Obama's British 'Gift Gaffe' Not Reported By U.S. Media

By Warner Todd Huston | March 07, 2009 | 04:45

The Obamas, Barack and Michelle both, pretty much diplomatically botched the recent visit of British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and his wife. Oddly enough, the U.S. Old Media seems uninterested in the story that is a hot topic in England, a story that's left many Brits a bit miffed.

As the visit of the national leader of our closest ally began, the President informed the Brits that he wouldn't be attending the joint press conference that was planned to be held once PM Brown's plane touched down. This threw the visiting delegation into a tizzy leaving them scrambling to explain the sudden change in plans to the folks back home. Still, meetings were had and things smoothed out. Eventually the visit seemed to right itself... then came the Obama's gift gaffes.

It is well understood that visiting diplomatic delegations come bearing gifts and gift giving is returned in like fashion by the host country. It is an ages old human practice in diplomacy after all. Usually the gifts are valuable, representative of the products of the nations involved, or at least symbolic of the history of those nations.

For his part, PM Brown gave two symbolic gifts and one that expressed national pride. Brown came bearing a pen holder carved from the timbers of the sister ship of that which gave the wood to create the famous "Resolute Desk," the desk that has been in America's charge since 1880. He also gave Obama the framed commission for that famous ship, the HMS Resolute. His third gift was a seven-volume biography of one of England's greatest leaders, Winston Churchill.

So, what did President Obama give the British PM? 25 movies on DVD. Yeah, that's it. Brown gives a symbolic gift like the pen holder fashioned from a famous British warship and Obama responds by sending a staffer to WalMart to pick up a few quick movies.

How thoughtful. Or not.

And I'm not the only one to scoff at this thoughtless gift. The entire British press is up in arms. Many in Britain are seeing this as entirely gauche and indicative of the low esteem in which the Obama's hold England.

Worse, no one is 100% sure that Obama was smart enough to know that DVDs made in America don't play on European DVD players. American DVDs are created in the "Region One" format while those in Europe play in "Region Two" format. A U.S. DVD just won't play on a machine made for the English market.

Not to be out done in tastelessness by her husband, Michelle got into the act, too. Mrs. Brown came bearing two outfits for the Obama girls from Topshop, one of Britain's trendiest and expensive women's wear retail outlets.

In return, Michelle apparently had a staffer run down to the White House gift shop and grab two toy Marine One helicopter models for the Brown's boys.

Class all the way, huh?

All of this is on top of the snub of the Brits that Obama tossed off immediately upon entering office. One of his first official acts was to summarily return to the Brits the generous gift of the most famous bust of Winston Churchill that has sat in the Oval Office since the attacks on 9/11.

This threw British diplomats into a tizzy really blindsiding them. Even when they reiterated that Obama could keep the generous gift to the American people, he rejected it without comment leaving the Brits at a loss for words.

Now, I thought that Obama was going to improve our relations with "the world" once he took office? So far, all he's done is tell our enemies he's their friend and carelessly wave off our actual friends.

And, as I mentioned at the top, the U.S. Old Media has been ignoring this story.

Imagine that?

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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyFri Jul 27, 2012 4:58 pm

What did the British papers have to say about those "gaffes"?
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyFri Jul 27, 2012 6:38 pm

eyemaratzass wrote:
What did the British papers have to say about those "gaffes"?
This article from two left leaning publications will give you an idea.

The White House Replaces Churchill Bust - Newsweek and The Daily Beast

Busted: The Churchill Flap


Feb 20, 2009 7:00 PM EST
Has America's even- tempered new president already ruffled feathers in the land that spawned Borat and Benny Hill? That's certainly how the spiky British press responded after the White House sent back to the British Embassy a bust of Sir Winston Churchill that had occupied a cherished spot in President Bush's Oval Office. Intended as a symbol of transatlantic solidarity, the bust was a loaner from former British prime minister Tony Blair following the September 11 attacks. A bust of Abraham Lincoln—Obama's historical hero—now sits in its place. A White House spokesperson says the Churchill bust was removed before Obama's inauguration as part of the usual changeover operations, adding that every president puts his own stamp on the Oval Office.

But the British press, as is its wont, smells a snub. The Telegraph speculated that British diplomats' pulse rates would soar, while The Times of London wondered if a shadow had been cast over the special U.S.–U.K. relationship. A spokesperson for the British embassy, though, threw cold tea on the notion, pointing out British politician David Miliband was the first foreign minister to meet with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptySat Jul 28, 2012 9:35 am

For another view of this matter see the following--


http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/07/27/fact-check-bust-winston-churchill
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptySat Jul 28, 2012 10:17 am

eyemaratzass wrote:
For another view of this matter see the following--
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/07/27/fact-check-bust-winston-churchill

Come on, do you really think you're going to get the truth from this White House? That article leaves off the fact that there were two Churchill busts in the White House and Obama did indeed send one back.

The article is a typical leftist snow job that only refers to the bust that was never in the Oval office to begin with and leaves out the fact that there was a second bust, which Obama did send back.

If your interested in what really happened go to THIS LINK and find out what really transpired and not what the left's propaganda machine tells you.
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptySat Jul 28, 2012 2:07 pm

Why in the name of God does the White House have to show two busts of Winston Churchill to meet your criteria? Was the one loaned by the Brits better than the one they had? I imagine even Churchill himself would not think two busts were necessary. Maybe the one that was loaned was the one that was kept. I still don't recall any big flap in GB. I note from your post that the Telegraph merely "speculated" and the Times merely "wondered". You are looking at a molehill through binoculars and thinking you are looking at a mountain.

Your peace of mind must be under extreme stress if you think everything from the White House is a lie.
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptySat Jul 28, 2012 3:05 pm

You can spin it anyway you like, but the fact is Obama did ship the Churchill bust in the oval office back to the Birts.

No one was talking about the other Bust of Churchill that was never in the oval office to begin with.

I find it interesting that you wanted to make an issue over a minor flub from Romney that has attracted very little attention outside of the socialist community, but are willing to to use deception to cover an Obama snub.

The leftist propaganda machine knows darn well that the bust they tout as still being on display in the White House is a different one than the one Obama shipped back to the Brits.

This crap that comes from the left has gotten really old! If a Democrat does somethingg wrong just ignore it, but when someone that is not a member of the socialist community does something you don't like you make a huge issue out of it.

Obama has exhibited his lack of diplomatic diplomacy many times, but it is totally ignored by most of the socialist media.

How about the time Obama snubbed Netanyahu for dinner with Michelle and the girls
Benjamin Netanyahu was left to stew in a White House meeting room for over an hour after President Barack Obama abruptly walked out of tense talks to have supper with his family.


You can read about it in the UK Telegraph

Or How about when Gordon Brown had to Face Humiliation After an Obama 'Snub'
Downing Street is looking to avoid potential humiliation after the White House scaled down the profile of Gordon Brown's first formal meeting with Barack Obama.

Read about it in The Huff Post
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyMon Jul 30, 2012 4:26 pm

Your not going to hear this from the left!

Romney was right!

This is from the British Telegraph.UK

London 2012 Olympics: 'fiasco' of the 12,000 empty seats


More than 12,000 seats remained empty at London 2012 venues yesterday as angry
sports fans and athletes demanded Olympics organisers sort out the “fiasco”
which is rapidly becoming a national embarrassment.Where are they? A number of events have experienced empty seats on the opening two days Photo: ACTION IMAGES

London 2012 Olympics: 'fiasco' of the 12,000 empty seats
 
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Missing the action: BOA chairman Lord Moynihan says that filling the seats with home support would deliver a boost to the British team Photo: Ian McIlgorm/ NOPP
London 2012 Olympics: 'fiasco' of the 12,000 empty seats
 
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Dozens of seats were empty at Olympic venues including Britain's volleyball match at Earls Court. Photo: REUTERS
London 2012 Olympics: 'fiasco' of the 12,000 empty seats
 
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Individual Dressage Equestrian event on day one of the London 2012 Olympic Games at Greenwich Park  Photo: GETTY


Lord Coe, the chairman of London 2012, was accused of breaking a promise that
unsold and unused corporate tickets would be given to the public, while Sir
Menzies Campbell, an observer on the board of Games organisers Locog,
described the situation as depressing.


Athletes who had been unable to get tickets for their families to watch them
compete said it was “absurd” and “ridiculous” that whole blocks of seats
remained empty at some venues.


Locog insisted that off-duty soldiers, as well as local schoolchildren and
teachers, be taken by bus to venues to help fill the gaps, as Lord Coe
ordered an urgent investigation into why so many seats have been empty.


A survey by The Daily Telegraph found that at least 12,000 seats were
unused yesterday, not including football stadiums, where tens of thousands
of seats have been unoccupied for some matches.


Popular events such as gymnastics, tennis and swimming had swathes of empty
seats despite members of the public being told that they were sold out.

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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyTue Jul 31, 2012 9:17 am

Crow all you want, Jack. I hope you enjoy it but in diplomacy with a foreign country an insult remains an insult even though it may be right. Romney did it again to the Palestinians. If that kind of treatment is indicative of his prospective Foreign Policy he better have a less confrontational Secretary of State than Josh Bolton.
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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyTue Jul 31, 2012 10:06 am

eyemaratzass wrote:
Crow all you want, Jack. I hope you enjoy it but in diplomacy with a foreign country an insult remains an insult even though it may be right. Romney did it again to the Palestinians. If that kind of treatment is indicative of his prospective Foreign Policy he better have a less confrontational Secretary of State than Josh Bolton.

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PostSubject: Re: Romney Foreign Policy   Romney Foreign Policy EmptyTue Jul 31, 2012 6:10 pm

eyemaratzass wrote:
For another view of this matter see the following--
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/07/27/fact-check-bust-winston-churchill

I love this! White House caught in another lie!

Busted:White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer’s ‘Fact Check’ about Winston Churchill bust is 100% false

Krauthammer today recycles the false rumor that POTUS gave back the bust of Winston Churchill. Get the facts here 1.usa.gov/P6D2hr


Dan Pfeiffer (@pfeiffer44) July 27, 2012
This was not a good day for the “normally serene White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer,” as ABC’s Jake Tapper describes him, to come out of his tiny White House office and make a bold and blatantly false statement regarding the now infamous bust of Winston Churchill that used to reside in the White House Oval Office. Here is what Pfeiffer wrote earlier today:

Lately, there’s been a rumor swirling around about the current location of the bust of Winston Churchill. Some have claimed that President Obama removed the bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office and sent it back to the British Embassy.

Now, normally we wouldn’t address a rumor that’s so patently false, but just this morning the Washington Post’s Charles Krauthammer repeated this ridiculous claim in his column. He said President Obama “started his Presidency by returning to the British Embassy the bust of Winston Churchill that had graced the Oval Office.”

This is 100% false. The bust still in the White House (sic). In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room.

The thing is, when you’re going to write a “fact check” article or blog post, you might want to, you know, check your facts. We know that this is usually an extremely difficult task for the Obama White House. Thankfully, Twitter user @RBPundit was all over this story and did Dan Pfeiffer’s job for him.

All you Lefties out there. @Pfeiffer44 lied about Churchill's bust. Proof -> bit.ly/SXGEqP Looking at you, @Lizardoid #tcot #p2—
RB (@RBPundit) July 27, 2012

Jake Tapper figured out what is going on. It turns out there were two Churchill busts in the White House. One is still there. The other — the one that used to be in the Oval Office, the one which Charles Krauthammer was referring to — has been returned to the British. To quote Shaggy from Scooby Doo, “ZOINKS!!”

@aberrandt Another bust had been there since the Nixon admin. The bust Pfeiffer said was still in the White House? The Nixon era one.—
RB (@RBPundit) July 27, 2012

@aberrandt One bust was loaned to Bush. It was in the Oval Office. Obama got rid of that one. Sent it back to British.—
RB (@RBPundit) July 27, 2012

@aberrandt The one Romney and Krauthammer talked about is in the Ambassador's house.—
RB (@RBPundit) July 27, 2012

Considering that this had been an international story a few years ago, you’d think that fact-checking wouldn’t be so hard for the White House.

CBS’s Mark Knoller summed it up best.

Welcome to Politics 101: tell only the part of the story that serves your objective.—
Mark Knoller (@markknoller) July 27, 2012

BOOM!

Later today, Dan Pfeiffer published this addendum to his post:

Since my post on the fact that the bust of Winston Churchill has remained on display in the White House, despite assertions to the contrary, I have received a bunch of questions — so let me provide some additional info. The White House has had a bust of Winston Churchill since the 1960’s. At the start of the Bush administration Prime Minister Blair lent President Bush a bust that matched the one in the White House, which was being worked on at the time and was later returned to the residence. The version lent by Prime Minister Blair was displayed by President Bush until the end of his Presidency. On January 20, 2009 — Inauguration Day — all of the art lent specifically for President Bush’s Oval Office was removed by the curator’s office, as is common practice at the end of every presidency.

Pfeiffer doesn’t call it a correction or retraction, but he now seems to concede what Krauthammer contended — namely, that the Churchill bust that was in the Oval Office during the Bush Administration was removed when President Obama came into office. Perhaps this is “a common practice at the end of every presidency,” as Pfeiffer contends, but that is sort of beside the point. Krauthammer’s assertion was factually accurate, as even Mediaite (a left-leaning media website) concedes:

The British Embassy has confirmed thatWashington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer was correct when he wrote that a bust of Winston Churchill was removed from the White House when Barack Obama took office.

So what’s next for Dan Pfeiffer?

@pfeiffer44 I await Pfeiffer's retraction and apology—
Charles Krauthammer (@krauthammer) July 28, 2012

We can all wait for that apology. But one thing we’ve learned in politics: Never let a good lie get in the way of an apology.

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